The H. H. Franklin Club publishes the information listed below solely as a convenience to its members. No endorsement is made by the Club or Region, no claim or warranty is made as to the accuracy of any of this information. No responsibility is assumed for any transactions resulting from this information.
Watson Stabilator Straps September 28, 2015
Franklin Club Member Advertisement
Only available size is 1 1/2" by 24", which will fit Series 9 through 12 cars. These have a grey surface and are made from the available webbing that is most like the original. Price for present HHFC members is $20 each, non-members $30 each. Shipping by Priority Mail for 1 to 4 straps is $7. Part of the proceeds will be donated to the Club.
Contact Gordon Howard email@example.com or 860-871-6442.
Franklin Club Parts Projects
See a full list of Club Parts Projects.
Please contact the H. H. Franklin Club Projects Manager for any information on club items:
139 County Rt 44
Argyle, NY 12809
January 12, 2014
New Proposed Club Project: Bumper bolt (part # 49606) used on all 145 to 147 Franklins
Seeking anyone who would be interested in purchasing — your feedback needed to determine quantity to be made.
Description: Bumper bolt used on all 145 to 147 Franklins
- 9/16" Diameter X 5 7/8" long
- Made out of 303 Stainless Steel
Please contact Keith Kilmer and let him know if you have any interest in this item. Email firstname.lastname@example.org.
FCP-1 1930 Ser. 145 outer Tail Light Lens, clear glass $5.00 each plus shipping
Replaces #88129 - 1930 ser. 147 Tail light door assembly white glass. Special price reduction to clear out surplus inventory and get spares into the hands of those that can use them. Contact Bob Harrison - Nov 15, 2006.
FCP-3 1928 on Swing out Windshield Weather Seal $35.00 each plus shipping
Replacement for #32X10 - 1928 and later Windshield weather strip rubber having the rubber groove on the INSIDE of the windshield frame. 7 foot long.
FCP-4 1928 to series 151 Windshield Hinge Cover Seal $2.00 each plus shipping
Windshield hinge weather seal - closed cars. There is no listing of this part in parts books, but it is used on all piano style windshield hinges. Ser. 12 and earlier(?) - Ser. 152. (FYI, It is a strip of Cobra grain top material 2- 1/2" X 52"). I have, since we started selling these, found evidence that convertibles (all???) used Russet Brown leather that matched the leather interior of the car. No price changes for these at this time.
FCP-5 Series 10 to 130 Spark Plug Escutcheons
(set of 6) $90.00 / set of 6 plus shipping
These are Series 10 - Series 130 "high tension wire rubber escutcheons", Franklin drawing #39924. They fill the gap between the high tension wire loom and the underside of the air hood. These are a new run of copies of the original part, made of high temp rubber by Steel Rubber Prod. Using the mould that was donated to the Club by Emmett Hood.
FCP-6 Sidedraft Motor Pushrods 1930 - 1934 July 31, 2005 $150.00 / set of 12 plus shipping
The Franklin Club Projects now has sets of new pushrods for the Franklin 6 cylinder sidedraft motor. These new pushrods are custom made for our Club by one of the top makers of pushrods for racing, aircraft, and antique motors in the USA. They are:
- The same lengths as the original Franklin pushrods were.
- Modern construction of hollow tube with pressed in solid top and bottom ends, heat treated and then centerless ground. In addition, the ends, which are hardened to 60-62 RC, are long enough so that they completely extend through the pushrod tube bushings, thus reducing pushrod side wear (see picture).
- All rods have a narrow band of metal around the top. This is to replace the two dimples used in the originals to prevent the rods from falling through the pushrod tube bushings during removal, or installation of the valve cages.
- The rod ends are ground flat. Since these are externally just like the originals, no need to modify the tappet and rocker arm adjusting screw to a ball and socket type.
- These new pushrods are approximately 2 ounces lighter than original Franklin pushrods.
Sold in sets consisting of six intake, and six exhaust pushrods. Pushrod sets for the earlier downdraft motors are in development, watch for their announcement.
FCP-10 1929-1932 Brake Drums for cars with
wire wheels or de-mountable wood wheel $150.00 per pair plus
Will require riveting to your hubs and turned to finish size. Include rivets and detailed instructions.
These drums, made like the original Franklin brake drums, will have to be riveted to the buyers hubs then turned to size ( 13.997" / 14.003" ) just as the Franklin factory did. The new drums are made out of .019" thicker material. This should add some stiffness and give more life.
Brake drums will be sold in sets of 2 as it is important that brakes be in the same condition per axle. It is not safe to replace just one drum or one set of brake shoes. Brakes are always repaired or recondition in pairs in order to maintain balanced braking.
FCP-17 Copper brake line washer $0.75
each plus shipping
.065" thick X .565" O.D. X .345" I.D. I don't know where these are used. Both copper washers were donated by a club member who had to have 100 PCS made in order to get what he needed.
FCP-18 Mandrel formed Exhaust pipe $300.00 each
This is for S145, S147 and S163 as far as I know, possibly more. This pipe fits perfectly and clears everything, Crankcase, Air cleaner housing, Air Box, Brake petal, Frame cross brace, etc. Original Exhaust pipe was 18G (.049") new pipes are made of 14G (.078"). Pipe will have steel flange welded to pipe as original. Material is Aluminized steel.
FCP-23 Gemmer Steering Box rebuilding
kit $375 per kit plus shipping
This kit is supplied to us by Dick Pratt. Club members may buy the kit and rebuild their own box or have someone rebuild it for them. Another option would be to buy the kit from the club before they are all gone and possibly not available again, for use sometime in the future. When it comes time to rebuild the steering box they could send the kit and their steering box to Dick Pratt for rebuilding or rebuild the box themselves.
This Venturi, machined complete with all required holes, is made by club member Dick Pratt.
Part #50541 used on Series 145 to Series 16.
Part #31094 used on Series 11 to Series 16.
FCP-36 Brake line fitting kits $18 per kit
Brake line fitting kits for S12 & S13 that contains Long Tapered flair nuts like the originals, (10) 1/4” & (2) 5/16” sizes, to replace all nuts in the brake system.
FCP-36-1 Brake line fitting kits $21 per kit
Brake line fitting kits for S14 to S19 that contains Long Tapered flair nuts like the originals, (10) ¼” & (4) 5/16” sizes, to replace all nuts in the brake system.
Parts for Sale
SIDEDRAFT ENGINE PARTS FOR SALE
ODYSSEY RESTORATIONS, INC.
We have recently re-run the following parts projects:
- Sidedraft engine & V/12 cooling baffles - Hasslen design, proven performance. 8 sets remain $49/set (2 sets required for V/12)
- Aircraft bronze exhaust guides - factory design guide with modern materials. Superior lubrication, cooler stem temps. longer life. $14.90 each, $89.40 per set. New run, 10 sets available.
- Tubular pushrod kit - The easiest, most cost effective way to rebuild the valvetrain with the benefit of quieter operation, less strain. Includes new pushrods, new lifters, fitted guides, tube modification, adjusters. Call for details.
- ** NEW** Spicer universal joint - fits Series 8 through Series 14, 2 per car. These are new Spicer crosses with needle bearings machined to fit the Franklin. Limited run. $37.50 each
Please note parts projects are run on an as-needed basis (as we need em, not you) and are available only at limited times. Purchase now to avoid missing out. All parts + shipping & handling. MN residents subject to 6.5% sales tax.
Other new & custom engine parts available. Engine restoration services, insert bearing conversions, camshaft grinding, cylinder & head rebuilding, Proven parts, designs, workmanship. All years, all Series. Please call. Tom Rasmussen, Odyssey Restorations, Inc. 8080 Central Ave. NE Spring Lake Park, MN 55432 763-786-1518 email email@example.com.
Brass bolts at the end of the spring for a 1910 Franklin. They ARE marked "oil" They were machined from an original bolt. The cost will be $20.00 each, or less for a set of 8. Ian C. McLeod, phone 517-347-4100 Fax 517-347-4100 E-Mail firstname.lastname@example.org
Parts WantedJune 16, 2015
Wanted: set of 1933 Olympic "headlites" for an 18B. Also, looking for a set for a 1934 Olympic 18C. These cans have the parking lite bulb inside the can as well as the regular headlight bulb.
Also, need the "oil tapet line and connections" for a side draft engine. Or information where I can get the connectors. I would like to have the whole system on an engine I plan to rebuilt ... even though most people don't bother with them.
Thanks, Frank (long, long time member) (909) 296-0980
August 29, 2014Wanted: Needed three (3) 24" Houk wire wheel lock rings.
Contact Chuck Richardson at 1906Franklin@gmail.com or 626-798-6871.
See the Services & Vendors page for many other parts.
1931 Series 15 Spring Pivot Bolt/Bushing Sets January 3, 2013
These bolts fit the 1931 OPEN EYE spring only, used on many, but not all 1931 Franklins. The OPEN EYE springs are identified by the large diameter (approx 1-7/8”) end caps.
1931 153 Open Eye Pivot Bolt Assembly Identification
Bolts are made to original specifications (drawing #53051), are case hardened and ground. Solid 660 bronze bushings replace the OEM steel-backed bushings which badly wore the pivot bolt after the bronze liner was worn.
- $32.95 per bolt/bushing
- $130 set of four (one axle)
- $250 set of eight (complete car)
We needed a set and made some extras. If you have a car with these springs – buy now.
Odyssey Restorations, Inc.
8080 Central Ave NE
Spring Lake Park, MN 55432
Franklin Cooling Fan and Clutch Disc Rubberized Fabric Rings
Cooling Fan and Clutch Disc Rebuilding Service
Series 9 Front Driveshaft Rubberized Fabric Rings
At 94 years young, Club member Don Kitchin has finally decided to retire from making rubberized fabric ring sets for Franklin cooling fans, clutch discs, and early drive shaft couplings. For over 25 years I've been restoring the cooling fans and clutch discs using Don's rings, so Don has decided to turn the entire operation over to me.
Because original style rivets work best in this application, I only install the fabric rings using the same type of the rivets and washers that Franklin used. I can also rivet on new, non-asbestos clutch disc facings.
For those ordering just the fabric ring sets, please note:
- Because the original style rivets need special, expensive tools to install them properly, I do not sell rivets with the ring sets.
- Some clutch discs use 24 rivets, and some only use 22 rivets. Be sure to let me know which set you need.
Cooling fan, or clutch disc fabric centers $40 per set of two rings
- Includes shipping to the USA only. Foreign orders please contact me\ for a quote.
Cooling Fan Rebuilding Service
- Cooling fan fabric rings installed on your cooling fan, $125, plus
shipping and insurance.
Note: Because the cooling fan is balanced as part of the crankshaft/flywheel unit, it's advisable to replace the fabric rings before having your motor rebuilt. I have been doing this service for a number of Franklin engine rebuilders.
Clutch Dics Rebuilding Service
- New clutch disc facings installed, $60 plus shipping and insurance.
- New fabric rings and clutch disc facings installed, $145 plus shipping and insurance.
- Media blasting and painting extra. Please ask for a quote.
New Series 9 Front Driveshaft Rings
- A set of four discs - ready to be installed is $60.00 plus shipping and insurance.
Driveshaft Coupling Rings
- Please contact me for a price quote.
Wood Restoration Co.
P.O. Box 210
7 South Main St.
Sherburne, NY 13460-0210
REPRODUCED PARTS for a 1929, series 13, 135 sedan.
THROTTLE: Lost wax casting in bronze from original zinc die cast part. Finished and nickel plated; ready to drop in. Excellent fit. $180.00 Plus $10.00 for packing, postage, and insurance.
GRILL CAP: Lost wax casting in bronze from original zinc die cast part. Finished and chrome plated over nickel plating. Note it is the one with the Herringbone decoration around the perimeter and measures 3 1/2" in diameter. Shrinkage is less than 1/16" diameter from the original pot metal piece. Some very, very small pits hardly seen at arms length. Special attention to herringbone detail so to duplicate original as accurately as possible. On underside one can see the original factory number in the fine detail and the stud has been drilled and tapped to 5/16th x 18, square and straight to the piece. $400.00 Plus $10.00 for packing, postage, and insurance.
These prices reflect cost only and no profit is realized. Plaster molds,
rubber molds, casting, finishing to auto quality plating adds up fast,
but I was very pleased with the results. These parts will be at the 2008 Trek
James Roberts, email at, email@example.com or call at 978-658-4339 voice mail there 1/08.
Front window frames for Franklins from 1925 to 1934 - They manufacture the correct channels for front frame as well as the frames for the convertible coupes. The company is: N/C Industries Antique Auto Parts, P.O. Box 254, 301 S. Thomas Ave., Sayre, PA 18840 - Talk with Kevin Brown Phone 570.888.6216 e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org.
Drum Puller -- Something new from Dick Gaskill, a drum puller - Can deduct $12.00 if you don't need calipers and $8.00 if you don't need the Thread file, contact Dick Gaskill, email@example.com or mail 14411 Ramblewood, Livonia, MI 48154-5336 or phone 734-591-2565 price $149.95
Resilvering of head light and tail light reflectors. They also have cork gaskets and light bulbs for most head/tail lights. Steve's Auto Restorations, Inc., 4440 S.E. 174th, Portland, Oregon 97236 Phone 503.665.2222
DECALS FOR DASH AND CIGAR SET - Looks just the ones Franklin manufactured. This picture shows a green color which is really reproduced as the original gold very well in the decal itself.
These decals were made on a 1.3 million dollar Heidelberg Press which handles the difficult job of printing metalic gold ink Price is $30.00 for complete set of 3 decals plus one extra one free for experimentation or marking alignment on dash. This will also give you insurance against any problem you might have. Decals will take clear finish without running the ink. These are not water decals but rather high quality prints on sticky material. Looks even better than originals at all viewing angles. Dick guarantees you will be pleased or return the decals for a full refund. Decals would look fine as final touch without any clear coat over them also. Write, call or e-mail Richard M. Gaskill, 14411 Ramblewood St., Livonia, MI 48154, 734.591.2565, e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org
The same hoses fit most Chrysler cars of the later 20's and early 30's. The cost is $19.50 (as of 1999).
Gary Roberts, Jr.
Roberts Motor Parts, Inc.
17 Prospect Street
West Newbury, MA 01985
978-363-5407 or 800-231-3180
Pilots The Franklin manual states: "Use the two PILOTS for lining up the bolts" when changing a wheel and tire. Pictured here are the NEW PILOTS to make your tire changing easier. Order yours today, the set pictured are 9/16" - 18 thread, check yours before ordering. One set of 2 $15.00 plus postage of $1.50 per set. Make your check for $16.50 payable to: Richard Gaskill and mail it to: 14411 Ramblewood, Livonia, MI 48154-5336. Should you have any questions, e-mail them to: email@example.com
Franklin Parts by Hasslen
- Timing Chains - Series 10 through Series 18
- Gasket sets for engine rebuild
- Miscellaneous Gaskets
- Parts to build Gas Reserve and Supply for Series 10, 11 and 12
- Porcelain Franklin Service Station signs
- Fire Wall plates - Series 9 though Series 18
- Watson Stabilitator plates - three piece and rivets in set
- Walker body plates
- Parts to build mufflers - 1907 to Series 8 and 9A, 9B, 10A and 10B
- New carburetor top for Series 8 though Series 11
- Series 16 interior door handles
- Series 12 interior door handles
- Olympic interior door handles Olympic exterior door handles
- Belt buckles with Series 12 emblem
- Felt Valve oiler pads
- Cast aluminum brake and clutch pedals
- Series 12, 13, 14 and Olympic hub caps
- Series 15 and 16 hub caps are in the works now, call for information or to place your order. For more information or to order any of the above call or write Jeff Hasslen, 13311 95th St. NE, Elk River, MN 55330-7418 phone 763-441-7815
Vacuum Tank Gaskets
February 3, 2009
You can purchase vacuum tank gaskets at:
Restoration Supply Company
15182-B Highland Valley Rd.
Escondido, CA 92025
Order Desk (800) 306-7008
Other Inquiries (760) 741-4014
Fax (760) 739-8843
High Speed Gears for S-12 through S-19
(except S-17 & 18) December 28, 2008
This is the 4th run, over 100 sets sold, cruise at 60 MPH. We are ready to place the order for these 3.92-1 ring and pinion gear sets. If you have signed up in the past you should get an order form in the mail by the end of the year. If not please contact me for questions and ordering information. Price will be $968.00, ½ deposit at time of order, app. 6 months delivery.
763-441-7815 evenings and weekends
Brake Parts 1930 - 1934 August 4, 2008
Information on the Franklin brake system from Allan Franklin who researched for his 1931 Franklin Automobile, Series 152. Parts should be the same for the brakes on the following:
1930 Series 145
1930 Series 147
1932 Series 151
1931 Series 152
1931 Series 153
1932 Series 163
1932 Series 164
1933 Series 193
1934 Series 194
- 3 each Brake Hoses 28-30 # T52A (male threads) 3 @ $19.50 ea.
= $ 58.50
Source: Roberts Motor Parts (800) 231-31870, contact Gary (Shipping $10.00)
- 1 each Master Cylinder Rebuilt Kit #UP-1, $14.80
- 2 each 1 3/8" Front Wheel Cylinders # WC-1430, 2 @ $78.69 ea. = $157.37
- 2 each 1 1/4" Rear Wheel Cylinders # WC-695, 2 @ $52.79 ea. = $105.58
Stock front wheel cylinders use 1 1/4" but 1 3/8" larger ones can be used by filling out the two mounting holes.
- 4 each Bleeder Screws # F-11410, 4 @ $1.33 ea. = $6.75
- 3 each Master Cylinders Washers # F-17 (pack of 10) $3.80
- 4 each Banjo Bolt Copper Washers # F-602 (pack of 10) $4.60
- 4 each Copper Washers # F-603 (pack of 10) $4.60
Notes: Use Loctight on Master Cylinder washers.
Source: Rock Auto (866) 762-5288, contact Jeff
- Stoplight Switch: Echlin # SL-113
See Harley Davidson dealer? Echlin 113 is available from NAPA
Bleed brakes, starting furthest from the master cylinder in this order: left rear, right rear, right front, left front. After cleaning out the brake lines blow air and brake cleaner thru the lines. I elected to use Dot 5 Brake Fluid.
From Chuck MacDonald: Wallace Desck has repaired my vacuum tank, tested it and is shipping it back. Approx $100.00. He did state that the top may have to be replaced but he would give me credit for it. He said there is a company in Australia that makes them. Ill let you know how it work once I install it. Approximately $19.00 and 4 days to ship the tank to Florida by UPS Ground.
PO Box 380
Ridge Farm, IL 61870
Address in Florida is:
2041 Thompson Nursery Road, Lot 40
Lake Wales, FL 33859
1929 Franklin right hand tail
New castings, machined, ready to paint. $107.00 each, shipping extra. Contact:
De Ruyter, NY 13052-9201
New manufacture oil filter from Roberts Motor Parts, part number T45. While they are not the long canister type that was used originally, these are the same 4-1/8 inch outside diameter as fits the original oil filter brackets, with 1/8 national pipe thread on each end marked "in" and "out". 5-7/8 inch long overall. Some black paint and a repro Purolater decal from the California Classic Car Club guys and it's close. For those who don't know, they are the same people we get the brake hoses from (for 28-34 Franklins use number T52A, see below for picture of the hose).
Roberts Motor Parts
17 Prospect St.
West Newbury, MA 01985
Fuel pumps and rebuild kits
Fuel pumps and rebuild kits available at:
Antique Auto Parts Cellar
As has been said many times in the past and bears repeating here... "refrigeration copper tubing" should NOT be used in brake systems. It is NOT meant to take the working pressures of even an old low pressure brake system like Franklins have. Refrigeration copper tubing is TOO SOFT for that application. The burst strength of soft copper is too close to the maximum working pressures that a Franklin brake system can generate. This tubing I am listing is about 8 times stronger than the same sized tubing in soft copper. It matches the original copper used on Franklin hydraulic brake systems in that it is designed, tested and rated for use in modern brake systems. Well above what a Franklin brake system has to deal with and like originally intended by Franklin, has the added benefit of no worries about corrosion.
This material is very nice to work with and with a simple flaring tool, is easy to duplicate the single flair connections that Franklin used. It is also easy to form to fit into the chassis.
There are two companies that sell the tubing:
Automec Equipment and Parts Limited
Buckingham Industrial Park,
Buckingham, MK18 1RQ
Phone: 01280 822818 or 823117
Fax: 01280 823140
The Automec people are very nice to deal with. E-mailed questions were answered very promptly. Fast, courteous service. They also carry all the tools necessary for forming and installing tubing for just about any type of application, all of which can be seen on their website listed above.
The tubing comes in 25 foot rolls. All years of Franklins will use almost all of a 25 foot roll of 1/4 inch tubing. Order number for the 1/4 inch od tubing is, HCP014. The 5/16 inch od tubing that is needed for the cross over line from the master cylinder to the tee fitting on the passenger side of the chassis, and the reservoir line on '30 and later cars is, HCP516. Only three feet of the 5/16 is needed for '28 and '29. 1930 and later cars need two, three foot pieces (6 feet total) of the 5/16. One for the cross over line and one to the brake fluid reservoir can on the firewall.
Update: November 18, 2010
This tubing along with a wide assortment of fittings is now available in the USA at:
Federal Hill Trading Company
195 Federal Hill Road
Oxford, MA 01540-1303
They do not have a store front and deal mainly by phone or Internet. They have a very good web site that list all the products they carry as well as answers to technical information. Federal Hill carries partial rolls of tubing so you do not have to buy a 25' roll if you do not need it.
L & L Auto Trim has runningboard moldings for 1927, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 1933 Franklins. Plus some earlier moldings. Call or write your needs.
L&L Antique Auto Trim
P.O. Box 177
Pierce City, MO 65723
The 1928 12A has a 7/8" thread and uses a Champion W18 spark plug. The numbers recently changed and I think the new number is 518, but you should ask for the W18 first. Franklin switched to an 18mm threaded plug for the 12B. This uses a champion D16, or current number is 516. I have seen a couple 12-As with Series 130 cylinders, so make certain yours has the original large plug in it. Most good-sized auto parts stores stock the plugs. If they don't have them in stock, they can surely order them.
Series 14 Distributors
Series 14 and Chev Distributors AT THE "BIG A" CHAIN OF PARTS HOUSE, WHICH SELL STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS. CONDENSER = 32 - 821, ROTOR = 34 - 13, POINTS = 31 - 30, CAP = 33 - 22. Don't worry about the different Chev. distributor model numbers - they all use the same points, condenser, cap and rotor and will fit your Series 14. Just tell your parts house you want the parts for a '57 Chev, and you'll get the right stuff.
Reproduction Distributor Caps
Charles Bouteiller has reproduced the distributor caps for the Atwater Kent Model RA and others. Cap $100, Rotor $35, and Points $35.
From Sam Kern - New reproductions for Series 11-A. Mr. Bouteiller usually has spaces at Fall Carlisle and Fall Hershey. Also, last year he had a display at the Charlotte Flea Market early April. He also can supply the correct rotors and point sets.
Great Barrington, MA 01230
During the Winter, he can be reached at:
C.O. Sunter Oaks RV Park
4602- County Road 673
Bushnell, FL 53513-8358
Bill Williams makes data plates and has made some for Franklin. I've only purchased the new crankhole covers from him (which double as V/12 valve cover medallions). Also has Delco starter & generator tags.
So. Cal region of the CCCA has lots of plates as well, including pre 1912 Franklin plates, but none later. Also has Delco starter & generator tags.
P.O. Box 3742
Orange, CA 92857
Having recently had the top end of my engine rebuilt, it was pointed out to me that I needed to get a "real" air filter to protect the rings. My research into a filter that would fit for "drivers" of their cars identified a K&N manufactured filter that will fit the neck of the U-3 Stromberg carburetor on cross-draft engines. The filters were developed for off-road racing and are well known in street rod circles. It is expensive (relatively) but is a permanent type that can be washed out and reused. The manufacturer's number is RU - 3560 and it is sold in NAPA parts stores.
High Speed Gear Sets
3:92 Rear axle ratio, S-12-19 (exc 17 and 18). Need a few more orders for the 4th run, over 100 sets sold so far. It is unlikely these will be made again for a few years. Approx. cost $830.00/set.
13311 95th St. NE
Elk River, MN 55330